Topic: Lucifer

[DocSavage]

Awesome! 

Had no idea this one was coming.  Last comic series I ever would've expected to get an adaptation.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Probably my favorite series ever, but it's not really like the comic at all. They got the names right and the general story beginning, but that's it. This will pretty much be a cop procedural, and that's fine. Rather them do something completely new than do a shitty attempt at bringing the comic to life.

[DocSavage]

Lucifers way too nice.


And the angels are dicks.  Pretty common for tv writers, but it makes everyone calling Lucifer evil just ridiculous.

"Lucifer, your being too merciful!  There needs to be a balance!"

Vertigo angels actually were bastards, but their antagonism towards Lucifer just doesn't make sense.  Maybe if they were going around saving lives, proving this balance logic, except they don't.  They basically don't seem to care about humanity one way or another.

[BobbyR]

I liked it.


What's wrong with the Devil wanting to repent?

[DocSavage]

I liked it.


What's wrong with the Devil wanting to repent?

Nothing.

It's more the angels getting on his case for nothing, when they're basically jerks themselves.   (Which is what I mean by tyical tv writing..  The religious icons are blatant arseholes, while the villains are saints.)



Another thing is the logic on why they hate Lucifer. The comic book versions basically had it as angels = facists, devil = anarchist, but both were neutral to humanity.  The conflict between devils and angels was that angels supported a grand design, while the devil wanted freedom to do as he wishes.  Humans could die from either sides actions/inactions (For example, a somewhat related story had Spectre, who's job is to punish killers, genocide an entire nation caught in civil war.  Archangel Michael, the brother to Lucifer, called this just.)

But here on this show, I'm not seeing why the angels hate Lucifer.  He was criticised for breaking the balance by being merciful?  As in, helping humans?  Yet, the angels themselves don't really help humans either, so where's the balance being broken?

[EDGECRUSHER]

The show will be very different from the comic, so the two are almost incomparable aside from the names. I'm fine with that as the comic could only be a HBO series over the course of 5 years.