Topic: Official XBox E3 Thread

[Prime]

Because that's how it works now. People take a tidbit of information, rant all over it because they either assume they know exactly what's going on behind closed doors or are way smarter than everything else, and will say anything to drive traffic to their stupid sites. They latch on to one thing and blast the hell out of it no matter how wrong they are. (Now you see why I ranted all over this on the podcast.)

They do it all without truly understanding. /rant

[Chus-Kay]

where's the link to the official press release?

[Chus-Kay]

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/Press/2013/May13/05-21XboxPR.aspx

[Prime]

X1 CPU info:

http://www.wpcentral.com/xbox-one-cpu-has-power-dominate

[DocSavage]

About exclusives:

What's in it for the third parties, exactly?  I'm assuming some variation of money regardless of how their product sells, along with the knowledge that their products have a secure source...  But isn't there more potential money to be had in straight up multiplatform releases?  Can MS, Sony, or Nintendo offer them more money than they'd make from a killing across all the consoles?

[Prime]

Not necessarily. Developing a game for multiple platforms means your development costs goes up exponentially; staff, tools, hardware, potentially office space, everything that goes along with multiple staff (salary, benefits, perks, etc). Usually MS or Sony will offer big advertising dollars to go along with a big enough exclusive title.

[Little Jimmy]

Not necessarily. Developing a game for multiple platforms means your development costs goes up exponentially; staff, tools, hardware, potentially office space, everything that goes along with multiple staff (salary, benefits, perks, etc). Usually MS or Sony will offer big advertising dollars to go along with a big enough exclusive title.

What you said exactly. The extra development money it would cost to port a 360 game to the PS3 or vice versa was a gamble, and there were certain games that would just sell on one console that wouldn't sell on the other nearly as well. Sometimes it's better to take the cash money and free advertising one of the companies offers you for exclusivity and just roll with it.


Nintendo is a different beast all together. Most of their exclusives are games they make themselves. In house development costs for dudes they already employ. Nintendo doesn't have to put up the kind of numbers that third parties do in sales to roll in profits. They prove that every console cycle. Even the Gamecube was profitable.

[RealMarchHare]

The Gamecube was actually a damn good console. It was more powerful than the PS2.  The problem with it was the size made everyone laugh.  It was also the start of Nintendo having issues getting Third Parties involved in the development of games for their system and for the one's that were getting quality.  I do not regret my GCN purchase when it dropped to $99.99 as there was enough of a library of games for it to justify that price and to this day I don't feel like I missed any.  Keep in mind that library of games is:

LoZ: CE
LoZ: WW
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (one of the best games ever made that nobody has played)
Tales of Symphonia
Resident Evil 0
REmake
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Residnet Evil CVX
Resident Evil 4
Hunter: The Reckoning
Super Smash Bros: Melee
Soul Caliber 2
(I feel like I'm forgetting something but if I am it's something insignificant)

In my experience most everyone's GCN collection mirrors that with a few different differences (Mario Kart and Luigi's Mansion on some people's)

Point is though that all Nintendo needs, and they know this, is themselves.  So they don't put a lot of effort into obtaining the big Third Party support.  It really shows when you look at the Wii and DS libraries.

[Little Jimmy]

The Gamecube was actually a damn good console. It was more powerful than the PS2.  The problem with it was the size made everyone laugh.  It was also the start of Nintendo having issues getting Third Parties involved in the development of games for their system and for the one's that were getting quality.  I do not regret my GCN purchase when it dropped to $99.99 as there was enough of a library of games for it to justify that price and to this day I don't feel like I missed any.  Keep in mind that library of games is:

LoZ: CE
LoZ: WW
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (one of the best games ever made that nobody has played)
Tales of Symphonia
Resident Evil 0
REmake
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Residnet Evil CVX
Resident Evil 4
Hunter: The Reckoning
Super Smash Bros: Melee
Soul Caliber 2
(I feel like I'm forgetting something but if I am it's something insignificant)

In my experience most everyone's GCN collection mirrors that with a few different differences (Mario Kart and Luigi's Mansion on some people's)

Point is though that all Nintendo needs, and they know this, is themselves.  So they don't put a lot of effort into obtaining the big Third Party support.  It really shows when you look at the Wii and DS libraries.

The gamecube was great! The problems for them IMO with third parties started with the N64 when they decided to stick with cartridges. Then they finally used discs, but not DVD's like the other platforms... but mini DVD's that held 1.5GB of info vice the 4.7gb of a DVD.. So it was cartridges all over again. I honestly, HONESTLY believe that if Nintendo got on board with CD's back in the N64 days, and full size DVD's in the Gamecube days, the gaming landscape would be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than it is now.


But to your point, yeah, all Nintendo ever has or ever will need is themselves and a few Japanese companies to keep them rolling in the JRPG's/quirky games that other companies won't do.

[RealMarchHare]

The gamecube was great! The problems for them IMO with third parties started with the N64 when they decided to stick with cartridges. Then they finally used discs, but not DVD's like the other platforms... but mini DVD's that held 1.5GB of info vice the 4.7gb of a DVD.. So it was cartridges all over again. I honestly, HONESTLY believe that if Nintendo got on board with CD's back in the N64 days, and full size DVD's in the Gamecube days, the gaming landscape would be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than it is now.


But to your point, yeah, all Nintendo ever has or ever will need is themselves and a few Japanese companies to keep them rolling in the JRPG's/quirky games that other companies won't do.

Agreed, I'd Karma + you but well...still broken