Author Topic: Raw is Silliness 11/16 (Read 3447 times)

Zandrax · « **on:** November 16, 2015, 08:18:11 PM »

Bray Wyatt can call down thunder and lightning, and apparently can mind control The Undertaker's Druids.

Has somebody in WWE been watching Lucha Underground?

KoppoKick · « **Reply #1 on:** November 16, 2015, 08:38:30 PM »

Kevin Owens is 2 popup powerbombs away from becoming the WWE World Champion.

FATSEXY · « **Reply #2 on:** November 16, 2015, 09:43:59 PM »

Fatty Steen has the dumbest finish in history. He does a cheerleader throw into the air. Can no one counter that? They always plant and quarter squat to jump for it. It's just a dumb looking move.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #3 on:** November 16, 2015, 09:50:06 PM »

Roman Reigns Superman Punched him on that move and it was awesome.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #4 on:** November 16, 2015, 10:47:35 PM »

Quote from: KoppoKick on November 16, 2015, 08:38:30 PM

Kevin Owens is 2 popup powerbombs away from becoming the WWE World Champion.

It's either him or Ambrose facing Reigns and I can see some shenanigans happen to make Owens the champion. It just makes more sense to have Reigns win it at Mania rather than defend it at Mania in month 5 or 6 of his reign. Owens is more than ready, already a Top 3 performer on the show.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2015, 07:12:02 AM »

Creative couldn't find a way to draw some real emotion out of this lame Divas Revolution or this Charlotte/Paige feud so they had to resort to cheap heat by referencing Reid Flair. Tacky beyond belief.

On the bright side, I know exactly when I'll get up to go use the bathroom at Philips Arena on Sunday.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2015, 01:07:53 PM »

Thoughts on the Charlotte, Paige angle at the end of the show.

http://www.southatlantawrestling.com/2015/11/charlotte-paige-main-event-angle-on-raw.html

RealMarchHare · « **Reply #7 on:** November 17, 2015, 07:29:02 PM »

Had to cancel my recording so I could watch MNF last night. What happened in the last segment? What was said?

dasheight · « **Reply #8 on:** November 17, 2015, 07:33:14 PM »

Quote from: RealMarchHare on November 17, 2015, 07:29:02 PM

Had to cancel my recording so I could watch MNF last night. What happened in the last segment? What was said?

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FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2015, 07:35:30 PM »

Charlotte: I'm going to use my dead brother to get over.

Paige: I'm going to help you use your dead brother to get over.

That was basically it.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2015, 08:15:59 PM »

It was a really strong segment, it's just that they have been treated like after thoughts for so long and they went right to blood feud overnight. Would've been amazing with a proper build.

RealMarchHare · « **Reply #11 on:** November 17, 2015, 10:52:18 PM »

Holy shit that was terrible. You've paid so little attention to building any of this properly you ended up needing to pull a stunt like that to get any excitement and heat for the match. Way to go *golf clap*

Zandrax · « **Reply #12 on:** November 17, 2015, 11:51:00 PM »

Quote from: RealMarchHare on November 17, 2015, 10:52:18 PM

Holy shit that was terrible. You've paid so little attention to building any of this properly you ended up needing to pull a stunt like that to get any excitement and heat for the match. Way to go *golf clap*

This is the same company that scripted Randy Orton to say "Eddie Guerrero is in Hell".

Paige is a second generation wrestler whose first match was against her own mother.

Charlotte is the daughter of Ric Flair. 'Nuff said.

How in the bloody blue fucking hell do you not run with this?!?

RealMarchHare · « **Reply #13 on:** November 18, 2015, 12:04:36 AM »

No I get that they've done this bullshit in the past but as you've pointed out there's much better choices. Both are second gen wrestlers. Just make it a match about who's RIGHT it is to be the champion basically

Torgo · « **Reply #14 on:** November 18, 2015, 12:45:34 AM »

Quote from: FreebirdSTF on November 17, 2015, 07:35:30 PM

Charlotte: I'm going to use my dead brother to get over.

Paige: I'm going to help you use your dead brother to get over.

That was basically it.

It worked for me. Like Edge said it could have been more impactful if it didn't feel like it came out of nowhere, but for a stand alone segment I thought this was a pretty strong one. I get why people didn't like it tho.

I love heel Paige. If they keep her heel, with this personality, she could be like heel Stone Cold Steve Austin was at the beginning. But of course next week she'll be a tweener again or a face, because Vince is stupid.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #15 on:** November 18, 2015, 07:34:21 AM »

Here's the other aspect of this and I of course cannot confirm any of it.

Reports/rumors have it that bringing Reid up was Charlotte's idea. Furthermore, Ric wasn't aware of it and Reid and Charlotte's mother was upset by it.

Like a guy I know on Twitter said, "An adult should have told Charlotte, No." Also, there's this...

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Jason Solomon ‏@solomonster 7h7 hours ago For those that asked, Flair said he knew nothing about it and cried when he saw it. Doesn't wanna say anything to hurt her career though.

https://twitter.com/solomonster/status/666859406701805568

Prime · « **Reply #16 on:** November 18, 2015, 09:30:43 AM »

I didn't mind it personally. I thought making it personal was good and would add some fire to the match, but I can also see where it would upset others. I also think that this being the icing on the cake after a proper build would have been much more awesome, but on it's own it was a pretty good segment.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #17 on:** November 18, 2015, 11:36:01 PM »

Ric said that Charlotte is at the point of her career where she doesn't want to say no, hinting that it was brought to her, which makes more sense.

It was a Wrestlemania build quality segment thrown away for a last minute push to an okay built feud. Kudos to them for closing the show with it because the ladies did a great job with what they had, but the timing was all wrong and holy shit how do you not give a heads up to Ric Flair that they were using his dead son to promote a match?

KoppoKick · « **Reply #18 on:** November 19, 2015, 07:01:58 AM »

Quote from: Torgo on November 18, 2015, 12:45:34 AM

I love heel Paige. If they keep her heel, with this personality, she could be like heel Stone Cold Steve Austin was at the beginning. But of course next week she'll be a tweener again or a face, because Vince is stupid.

What's the deal with her and Lana?

Torgo · « **Reply #19 on:** November 19, 2015, 10:43:39 AM »

Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on November 18, 2015, 11:36:01 PM

Ric said that Charlotte is at the point of her career where she doesn't want to say no, hinting that it was brought to her, which makes more sense.

It was a Wrestlemania build quality segment thrown away for a last minute push to an okay built feud. Kudos to them for closing the show with it because the ladies did a great job with what they had, but the timing was all wrong and holy shit how do you not give a heads up to Ric Flair that they were using his dead son to promote a match?

Yeah, not getting it approved ahead of time was a bad move.

Torgo · « **Reply #20 on:** November 19, 2015, 10:44:17 AM »

Quote from: KoppoKick on November 19, 2015, 07:01:58 AM

What's the deal with her and Lana?

Lana's trying to get herself a storyline lolol

EDIT: this was Paige's joke, btw. In case anyone thought I was trying to take credit for it.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #21 on:** November 19, 2015, 02:52:36 PM »

Raw Review is up. Good show.

http://www.southatlantawrestling.com/2015/11/raw-review-wwe-world-title-tournament.html

Zandrax · « **Reply #22 on:** November 19, 2015, 04:56:14 PM »

http://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/wwe-release-statement-regarding-charlottepaige-raw-angle-202031

WWE is trying to say it was Charlotte's idea. I find that difficult to believe.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #23 on:** November 19, 2015, 05:41:01 PM »

I've heard it both ways but it was rumored that it was Charlotte's idea. I mentioned it here up thread.

Torgo · « **Reply #24 on:** November 19, 2015, 08:00:19 PM »

Quote from: Zandrax on November 19, 2015, 04:56:14 PM

http://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/wwe-release-statement-regarding-charlottepaige-raw-angle-202031

WWE is trying to say it was Charlotte's idea. I find that difficult to believe.

Awwwwwwww shit.

I'm just gonna watch this unfold. I'm on the fence. If WWE says it was her idea, ok. If someone else is saying she had nothing to do with it, ok. I'ma need some more solid evidence before I blame either side. The only thing that is 100% certain is that it would be a shitty move to do that angle and not contact Flair or Reid's mother before doing it, and that appears to be what happened.