Author Topic: Roadblock aka the real Wrestlemania on paper (Read 3098 times)

dam skippy · « **on:** March 12, 2016, 12:16:52 PM »

I am hoping that Roadblock is a stupid waste of time that pisses off all the fans.

I think giving Ambrose vs. HHH will end up being a lose/lose. What I expect is that HHH overcomes Ambrose and proves his worth as a dominating champion instead of the man coming out of retirement, who placed himself in a situation that let him win the title. If Ambrose wins, it hijacks WrestleMania as the only thing that pleases the fans is for him to retain at WM.

They might be ok if Lesnar interferes and costs Ambrose the title.

As far as Bray vs. Brock. I don't know how you give the fans what they want. Maybe Brock takes all four stable mates to Suplex City. Brock can not lose here, even if Ambrose interferes.

Also Enzo and Big Cass get shot at the NXT titles in what could be the match of the night.

Zandrax · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2016, 12:35:20 PM »

The most interesting situation for me personally is Roman costs HHH the title, and Brock vs. Dean becomes the WWE Title Match at Mania. But I seriously doubt that is happening, so it's a no-win situation for Dean. He's not winning the title, and he's not beating Brock at Mania.

They've already broken their gate record, so I don't expect any major shakeups. I believe this justifies their programming in their minds.

KoppoKick · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2016, 06:28:18 PM »

aka The Road To WrestleMania. Reminds me of the specials WWE used to do on USA about a week before a major PPV.

Is Mauro calling any of the matches tonight?

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2016, 06:32:36 PM »

That scenario Z gives makes no sense considering the stipulation though. They can change it later, but as things stand Roman gets the title shot at Mania regardless who the champion is. Now they can certainly have Roman choose to turn it down b/c he'd rather have Triple H so I'm not saying it's completely illogical, but they will have to do something beyond just Ambrose winning the title to get Roman out of that match.

I tend to think this is one of those scenarios, like Fastlane, where everyone is going to get worked up and think they'll do something different and we'll end up with Reigns/Triple H for the strap at Mania.

Personally, I think they need to go ahead and follow through with Triple H/Reigns at Mania for the title no matter what the live crowd's reaction will be and then shake things up after that show.

dam skippy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2016, 08:18:35 PM »

That opening promo by New Day was amazing. This crowd is totally behind them.

dam skippy · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2016, 08:42:38 PM »

Announcers are Saxton, JBL and Cole.

Y2J got a squash on Jack Swagger.

KoppoKick · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2016, 08:47:42 PM »

Quote from: dam skippy on March 12, 2016, 08:42:38 PM

Y2J got a squash on Jack Swagger.

"YOU STILL GOT IT!"

dam skippy · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2016, 09:04:45 PM »

The NXT title match was awesome. The "this is awesome" chants were on par.

KoppoKick · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2016, 09:26:40 PM »

NXT delivered big tonight. Enzo has gotten a lot better in the ring.

dam skippy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 12, 2016, 10:04:32 PM »

I've had a lot of loading errors and repeating.

Charlotte vs Natalya had great psychology.

Lesnar vs. Bray became 2 on 1 with Harper fighting and losing the whole match.

Sammy playing the underdog who gets pummeledand finally gets a win was rough to see play out against Stardust.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2016, 10:09:43 PM »

I backed my stream up about 30 seconds or so and it smoothed out perfectly since then. It was awful up until that.

I am doing a results and review thing on my site too.

http://www.southatlantawrestling.com/2016/03/wwe-roadblock-2016-results-and-review.html

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #11 on:** March 12, 2016, 10:14:12 PM »

Only suitable finish for HHH vs. Ambrose should be Brock interfering. I mean, how can you have Ambrose lose cleanly and still look like a threat to Brock? Unless they are going to shock everyone, have Ambrose win the title and maybe do a 4 way at Mania, not many ways you can go.

BTW, 4 Way at Mania between Ambrose, Brock, HHH and Reigns would be amazing.

Zandrax · « **Reply #12 on:** March 12, 2016, 10:15:07 PM »

If this was 1980s Crockett, the finish to HHH/Dean would be a time limit draw.

dam skippy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 12, 2016, 10:26:05 PM »

HHH is letting Ambrose loose. I figured HHH would want to be over more.

dam skippy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 12, 2016, 10:27:49 PM »

And 1 minute later HHH gets the clean win.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2016, 10:40:47 PM »

I guess it wasn't too damaging for Dean to pin the champ but still lose, but he didn't appear that he was going to beat Brock as is. Now he really has no shot.

dam skippy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2016, 11:51:40 PM »

Most of the matches felt ppv quality. HHH vs. Ambrose should be better than Reigns but that's an apples and oranges debate.

Zandrax · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2016, 11:58:09 PM »

About halfway though the match, I thought maybe a true Dusty Finish. Where Dean walks out with the belt, but for some reason the decision gets reversed on Raw. That wuld be very easy to do in Authority Land. Heck even a countout victory where HHH is still crawling to the back, clutching to the belt for dear life....

Overall I still thought it was a good show. The fact that Jericho turned Canada against him is a testament to his promo skills. Nattie vs. Charlotte was great stuff, even though I knew Nattie was losing.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2016, 12:32:33 AM »

Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on March 12, 2016, 10:40:47 PM

I guess it wasn't too damaging for Dean to pin the champ but still lose, but he didn't appear that he was going to beat Brock as is. Now he really has no shot.

Wouldn't apparently beating the champion help his cause in that regard? Did he need to win the belt to make him more credible? I'm confused by this whole narrative surrounding this show at this point. I mean in general, not just EDGE's post here.

Dean was protected in a controversial loss against the King of Kings, The Game, The WWE World Heavyweight Champion and member of The Authority. I take that as a positive even though he ate a Pedigree. There weren't shenanigans from Triple H's side necessarily, but I didn't take that as a clean loss. He didn't get Booker T-ed tonight.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #19 on:** March 13, 2016, 09:44:11 AM »

Booker T losing at Wrestlemania may go down as the biggest tone deaf and political decision in wrestling history. To me, it trumps Hogan's bullshit at Starrcade 97.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2016, 09:48:44 AM »

I think the narrative is that this match didn't need to happen. They should be concentrating on their respective opponents, not going on mini feuds. Not just that, but Ambrose is clearly more over than Reigns and they just reminded everyone about it. Just seemed like an odd thing to do, HHH didn't need the win and Ambrose didn't need the detour from Brock, that's why I felt Brock should've been involved in the finish.

dam skippy · « **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2016, 11:22:51 AM »

I agree with match, the problem with this match is it was a lose/lose match. If Ambrose loses, it makes the match with Brock less compelling. If HHH loses, it takes away from him being a challenge to a more physical threat in Reigns. If Brock interferes it makes HHH looks weak. If Reigns interferes it makes Ambrose looks week. I think they were hoping that if Ambrose did the elbow on the announcer table spot and HHH moved at the last minute, it would come off as if Ambrose beat himself. It still doesn't help his match with Brock Lesnar.

At least the Bray vs. Brock match wasn't given away.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:16:38 PM »

Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on March 13, 2016, 09:48:44 AM

I think the narrative is that this match didn't need to happen. They should be concentrating on their respective opponents, not going on mini feuds. Not just that, but Ambrose is clearly more over than Reigns and they just reminded everyone about it. Just seemed like an odd thing to do, HHH didn't need the win and Ambrose didn't need the detour from Brock, that's why I felt Brock should've been involved in the finish.

Which is all fair, but everyone was for the match until Ambrose lost. That's what bugs me about the whole thing. I am fine with Roadblock not existing and doing just like you said. What I don't get is people making themselves believe that Roadblock existed to change everything about Mania and since it didn't do that it was a bad show.

I mean I have no issue with people being disappointed their guy didn't win. That's awesome. You should root for your guys to win. I just don't think the show was a failure because Dean ate a Pedigree to the champion.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2016, 07:44:45 PM »

No, the show was a great idea and a very good show at that. I think the Network should run more of these types of things and maybe even have some title changes on them eventually. The HHH/Ambrose feud made for entertaining TV because of how awesome Ambrose was and how this was the feud that the fans wanted. So, they got it and HHH won clean and now he goes back to working with the guy he is getting overwhelmingly cheered against and Ambrose limps into his Lesnar feud.

It just didn't need to happen right at this moment. Shaking up the status quo and putting the belt on Dean would've been entertaining if it happened, but a valiant yet clean loss doesn't really benefit anyone. WWE does this from time to time, book themselves into a corner and have no suitable way out.

But it wasn't terrible, just ill advised. They need to concentrate on getting HHH booed and Reigns cheered now, because it was a trainwreck before Roman left.

Jef Leopard · « **Reply #24 on:** March 14, 2016, 12:24:02 AM »

It's almost as if WWE thinks having good matches is as important as all the booking related minutia.