Author Topic: Josh is Not All In (Read 6592 times)

Prime · « **Reply #25 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:10:13 PM »

Yup aka Pentagon Dark from Lucha Underground.

Zandrax · « **Reply #26 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:14:40 PM »

Quote from: KoppoKick on August 22, 2018, 10:06:23 PM

The hardcore guy from TNA?

I don't know if he did any TNA appearances, though he is currently on Impact. But Lucha Underground is where I think he started getting noticed in The States.

dam skippy · « **Reply #27 on:** August 24, 2018, 11:40:03 AM »

So the free match on WNG America will be the Over TheBudgeg Battle Royal. They've got some Impact guys and a woman I am not familiar with. I'll try to watch that if I can .

KoppoKick · « **Reply #28 on:** September 01, 2018, 06:56:02 PM »

Flip! What a payoff.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #29 on:** September 01, 2018, 06:58:24 PM »

How the hell did I not see the ending coming with Flip?

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #30 on:** September 01, 2018, 07:21:09 PM »

This is a good event for Indy wrestling not just because it forces WWE to up their game and pay more, but because it shows you new wrestlers. Never heard of Matt Cross before tonight but he was very impressive to me.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #31 on:** September 01, 2018, 08:04:19 PM »

-Daniels/Ammell was very entertaining. Stephen wrestled like a guy who doesn't wrestle but Daniels can carry anyone.-Ladies Match took a bit to get going but had a hot finish despite ref botch? Wrestler botch?-Honestly thought this would be the main event for the NWA Title. I think he still goes over but now I am not as certain. Makes too much business sense for him to not win the title.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #32 on:** September 01, 2018, 08:14:31 PM »

There is just no excuse for this PPV to have excellent production and camera work while ROH PPV's look and sound like shit.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #33 on:** September 01, 2018, 08:36:29 PM »

I don't know if that match would've been great if the crowd and story weren't so hot, but as an overall package it was very good.
It's nice to see the title being prominent again.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #34 on:** September 01, 2018, 09:09:33 PM »

Fucking awesome. Magical talking boots and a murderous phone led to the best psychological moment in wrestling this year.

Joey Ryan with the Undertaker entrance.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #35 on:** September 01, 2018, 11:08:08 PM »

Going in, the knock against the show was that the card was lackluster. This PPV absolutely delivered from start to finish. I knew they were pressed for time for the main event since they rushed everyone out there, but they came for a spotfest and they got one. Wish they had a few minutes left to take a bow and thank everyone, but that's understandable.

Really good show, this was a massive success from every angle. Changed the game for wrestling and we should see many more in the future. If WWE wants Cody and the Bucks, they will have to pay them Cena money and make Reigns their personal jobber.

RealMarchHare · « **Reply #36 on:** September 02, 2018, 10:46:52 AM »

Do you think Cody would even go back after how they treated him? They shoe horned him into that Stardust gimmick which he nailed for them and then when his Father passed and they were doing all the memorial shit he asked if he could go back to being Cody in honor of his Father and shit and they told him no lol

SCB · « **Reply #37 on:** September 02, 2018, 11:41:00 AM »

Maybe in a few years when Vince is hemmoraging money from XFL 2. Their creative sucks right now and there’s no incentive for him or the Young Bucks to go. They’re making good money on their own. Young Bucks make a killing on pro wrestling tees alone.

I really think Vince would break up the Young Bucks as singles wrestlers.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #38 on:** September 02, 2018, 04:16:35 PM »

Like I've been saying, the only way that Cody and the Bucks and Kenny go to WWE is if they get Cena money and some creative control. They will not end up like Gallows and Anderson. They might even have title wins and WM Main Events in their contracts.
They hold all the cards and it will cost the WWE a ton of money for them to leave behind their friends and creative control. They're not exactly starving right now either.

dam skippy · « **Reply #39 on:** September 02, 2018, 06:17:58 PM »

I think right now as if today, Vince could care less. However, what happens next is what he will care about. Someone out there will want to capitalize on this. If they can and start some kind of pattern, whether a new company, regular shows similar to all in, or something else that demonstrates mimentum, then Vince may care. Right now it's still a one-off show.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #40 on:** September 02, 2018, 07:47:26 PM »

Cody showed that you can leave WWE and find even more success, without going to Japan. He and the Bucks sold out MSG, not ROH. Vince is definitely concerned because he can't keep signing talent at his current rate. His "non-TV" payroll is probably through the roof.
EC3 didn't come back cheaply and he is already an afterthought. How many of those guys will sign with WWE with the roster already jam packed?

SCB · « **Reply #41 on:** September 02, 2018, 10:54:18 PM »

If they had a better creative, they’d be more inclined to join, if the main roster ever becomes something like NXT.

Right now it’s being reported they’re keeping Nakamura, the US champ off tv because they don’t know what to do with him.

Bobby Roode is a jobber, hangs out with Mojo Rowley and No Way Jose in the janitors office.

Kenny has said he views Big E as a main eventer and the fact that wwe doesn’t holds him back from full wanting to go.

I don’t think a new promotion has to start, What guys at All In displayed is that there is life outside WWE for wrestlers. If Vince wants you to to be in a storyline about your 3 sisters growing up, you can choose alternate path.

Compare the battle royale they had vs that jobber Andre battle royale wwe does and you can see all in treated every random guy like a character and Star. Each person were showcased on their way out.

RealMarchHare · « **Reply #42 on:** September 03, 2018, 10:00:45 AM »

You've gotta be wondering how Triple H feels? He worked his ass off to make NXT into something and went out of his way to grab a bunch of premium talent. Watched them become absolutely HUGE.

Then he gets to watch them be called up and become jobbers who show up once every few weeks it seems

SCB · « **Reply #43 on:** September 03, 2018, 10:31:03 AM »

I’m more curious what the dynamic is with Stephanie. Former talents do not say anything positive about her and she buries talent on air with no receipts.

The day Vince steps down, does Stephanie continue her father’s work or let Triple H really take over, no pun intended.

As good as All In was, those Take Overs are way better.

Bubba Ray compared All In to the first ECW ppv, which is wild because he wrestled in both two decades apart. It’s an entire new generation of people producing it.

freud mayweather · « **Reply #44 on:** September 03, 2018, 10:38:09 AM »

Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on September 01, 2018, 07:21:09 PM

This is a good event for Indy wrestling not just because it forces WWE to up their game and pay more, but because it shows you new wrestlers. Never heard of Matt Cross before tonight but he was very impressive to me.

i feel like you're trolling suptool and whatever david mckinney's screen name is/was with this comment.

SCB · « **Reply #45 on:** September 03, 2018, 10:52:44 AM »

As for the actual show, while not as being a well produced and paced show like a Takeover, it was very entertaining and delivered on entertaining it’s specific audience of die hards.

I might have re-arranged the match order. Still not sure what would have gone on last and if Joey Ryan Dick Druids should have even gotten any time on the show considering they were running out of time at the end.

Individual thoughts:

How is Rey Mysterio still amazing today? He’s from the frickin 90’s pre Monday Night Wars and still hangs with modern versions of himself.

Tessa Blanchard is amazing. Yeah WWE sucks creatively, but she and Charlotte have to feud over there. Those other women are great as well.

Jay Lethal. Yeah he’s great at doing Savage and Flair impressions, but he was literally doing spots from classic wrestle manias in this and telling a great story in between.

Brian Cage. Nothing new to say. How’s he so big and agile? Who was that deadlifting him?!

While Cody is better than WWE treated him, I still wouldn’t make him WWE or New Japan champ. He’s leagues above his brother in potential, but nowhere near their dad. I would say he’s upper midcard and always a challenger for the title like where Miz is right now or where Jericho has airways floated around. He can still improve, but he can’t ever main event wrestle mania to me.

Zandrax · « **Reply #46 on:** September 03, 2018, 12:16:15 PM »

Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on September 02, 2018, 07:47:26 PM

Cody showed that you can leave WWE and find even more success, without going to Japan. He and the Bucks sold out MSG, not ROH. Vince is definitely concerned because he can't keep signing talent at his current rate. His "non-TV" payroll is probably through the roof.
EC3 didn't come back cheaply and he is already an afterthought. How many of those guys will sign with WWE with the roster already jam packed?

I fully expect Cody to be back in WWE in the next few years, maybe three. He's absolutely a bigger star now than when he left.

freud mayweather · « **Reply #47 on:** September 03, 2018, 04:32:49 PM »

Quote from: SCB on September 03, 2018, 10:52:44 AM

While Cody is better than WWE treated him, I still wouldn’t make him WWE or New Japan champ. He’s leagues above his brother in potential, but nowhere near their dad. I would say he’s upper midcard and always a challenger for the title like where Miz is right now or where Jericho has airways floated around. He can still improve, but he can’t ever main event wrestle mania to me.

this rings true to me. him vs the miz for the ic title would be fun as hell, but i can't imagine him carrying a main event feud.

KoppoKick · « **Reply #48 on:** September 03, 2018, 04:51:53 PM »

That was a really enjoyable show. I like how everyone got their moment to shine.

Thought the commentary team was outstanding. Don ripping on Ian was classic. Thought Excalibur was excellent all night with his insightful play by play and analysis.

I got a feeling we will see MJF, Joey Janela and Penelope Ford in Impact soon. Don sounded very impressed with their work.

Obviously Tessa is great. Chelsea is really impressive. I didn't watch much Impact while she was there. Wish I had.

Loved the presentation of the NWA Worlds Title match. Could have cried during Cody's entrance.

Hard to say which I enjoyed more: Hangman/Janela or Omega/Penta. Loved both.

Gotta say the main event being an all action sprint worked for me. All 6 guys are amazing. Too bad the show had to end so abruptly. Still a great show that delivered huge.

dam skippy · « **Reply #49 on:** September 03, 2018, 05:16:49 PM »

Quote from: freud mayweather on September 03, 2018, 04:32:49 PM

this rings true to me. him vs the miz for the ic title would be fun as hell, but i can't imagine him carrying a main event feud.

I feel he's where Christian was when he went to TNA. He was allowed a SD title run for a few mobths but he was pretty much buried after that. Cody could hold the title but it wouldn't have a long term feel to it .