Poll

Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens

Jack Bauer
7 (29.2%)
Raylan Givens
17 (70.8%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Voting closed: October 01, 2010, 10:03:56 AM

Author Topic: Tough Guys R1: Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens  (Read 1647 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Zandrax

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 20834
  • Karma: +125/-4
  • Hey buddy!
    • View Profile
    • Geekville Radio
Tough Guys R1: Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens
« on: September 29, 2010, 10:03:56 AM »


Jack Bauer was born in Santa Monica, California, on February 18, 1966, to Phillip Bauer, who placed his livelihood in his company, BXJ Technologies. The name of Jack's mother is unknown. Jack had one brother, Graem Bauer. Philip originally planned to give the company to Jack, but as Jack said in Day 6, "I just had to go my own way." Later on after leaving the U.S. Army, he married Teri Bauer, and later on had a child, named Kim Bauer.

Jack has a Master of Science degree in Criminology and Law from the University of California, Berkeley. He entered the U.S. Army and eventually joined Delta Force; among the decorations accumulated during his service are the Silver Star, the Purple Heart, and the Legion of Merit. He left the Army with the rank of Captain, according to his service record. Following his career in the Army, Jack worked for both the Los Angeles Police Department's Special Weapons and Tactics unit and for the Central Intelligence Agency as a case officer in the clandestine service. He was recruited into the Counter Terrorist Unit by Christopher Henderson.

He has demonstrated a high proficiency with firearms (typically the SIG P229 or USP Compact), explosives, electronic devices, resistance to torture (after being kidnapped by Chinese agents, and tortured for almost two years, it is revealed he hasn't spoken a single word for the whole time). He is fluent in German (Season 8) and has demonstrated some ability to either speak or understand Spanish (Seasons 1 & 3), Russian (Season 6), and Serbian (Season 1). He is also shown to be capable of flying planes (Season 2) and helicopters (Seasons 3, 5 & 8).

Jack's final dialogue with Renee Walker in Season 7 offers insight into his perspective on torture and its ramifications:

“I see fifteen people held hostage on a bus, and everything else goes out the window. I will do whatever it takes to save them, and I mean whatever it takes. ... Laws were written by much smarter men than me. And in the end, these laws have to be more important than the 15 people on the bus. I know that's right. In my mind, I know that's right. I just don't think my heart could ever have lived with it."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Bauer#Characterization



Raylan Givens is a quirky but dedicated contemporary U.S. Deputy Marshal who, having committed a justified killing in Florida (he shot a mob hit man who had just drawn a gun on him with intent to kill), has been re-assigned to a backwater town in Kentucky. Having grown-up in that area and having spent much of his life trying to escape from it, Raylan is not pleased to be there. Ghosts from his past including former lovers, a former friend now involved in criminal militia activity, a criminal father, and his own persistent anger control issues all come back to haunt him. But having been handed this lemon, Raylan is determined to make lemonade of it.

Among Raylan's personality traits are a strong preference for Western attire -- Stetson hat, tailored jeans and cowboy boots -- and a highly creative approach to law-enforcement which includes his highly-developed skill at the quick-draw. While he doesn't always color between the lines, Raylan Givens applies himself diligently to putting bad people behind bars and protecting good people. He is not a perfect man, but an essentially decent one.

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0165184/bio

A Very Smug Bear

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 789
  • Karma: +9/-0
    • View Profile
    • www.dancingbear.com
Re: Tough Guys R1: Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 11:45:37 AM »


Chus-Kay

  • Guest
Re: Tough Guys R1: Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 06:06:21 PM »
why isn't bauer in the same category as all the other past winners and 2nd place finishers??

Zandrax

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 20834
  • Karma: +125/-4
  • Hey buddy!
    • View Profile
    • Geekville Radio
Re: Tough Guys R1: Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 10:58:10 AM »
why isn't bauer in the same category as all the other past winners and 2nd place finishers??
Because I figured Bauer would just get steamrolled in a bracket full of guys like Supes and Bats. The Bauer love is long over.

The_Spoiler

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2356
  • Karma: +99/-4
    • View Profile
Re: Tough Guys R1: Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 11:14:08 AM »
why isn't bauer in the same category as all the other past winners and 2nd place finishers??
Because I figured Bauer would just get steamrolled in a bracket full of guys like Supes and Bats. The Bauer love is long over.

So you are saying that Jack Bauer is basically the Tommy Rich of Slugfest Champions?

Chus-Kay

  • Guest
Re: Tough Guys R1: Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 11:16:10 AM »
why isn't bauer in the same category as all the other past winners and 2nd place finishers??
Because I figured Bauer would just get steamrolled in a bracket full of guys like Supes and Bats. The Bauer love is long over.

so you're giving him an unfair advantage.  bs man...bs.

A Very Smug Bear

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 789
  • Karma: +9/-0
    • View Profile
    • www.dancingbear.com
Re: Tough Guys R1: Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 12:21:53 PM »
why isn't bauer in the same category as all the other past winners and 2nd place finishers??
Because I figured Bauer would just get steamrolled in a bracket full of guys like Supes and Bats. The Bauer love is long over.

so you're giving him an unfair advantage.  bs man...bs.

Pfffff Jack Bauer is over man, Raylan Givens is the new BadAss.

freud mayweather

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5199
  • Karma: +116/-5
    • View Profile
Re: Tough Guys R1: Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 12:23:02 PM »
i didn't give the slightest fuck about this match-up until i saw mike's gifs.
sportsball idiots

A Very Smug Bear

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 789
  • Karma: +9/-0
    • View Profile
    • www.dancingbear.com
Re: Tough Guys R1: Jack Bauer vs. Raylan Givens
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 02:30:09 PM »
i didn't give the slightest fuck about this match-up until i saw mike's gifs.

You should be a pirate and steal the show form the internet. Justified.