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Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« on: October 22, 2010, 03:09:19 PM »
Been happening over the last couple of days. I'll try to get on the site, and I'll either get a blank page (with the browser telling me it's 'Done' loading), or I'll get one of Mozilla's errors, with the button telling me to try again. Occasionally, when I do make it back on, I'll have to log in again. I was having trouble early this morning (between 12-1am PST), and again just now, but it's obviously working.

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 07:30:57 PM »
Dunno about that...but I'm having a chronic problems with several sites running over into each other's columns, among them LOP and PWBTS; as well as others. This would halso happen on occasion on the old board. Now it happens constantly when I read it on my work PC versus my home one.

Any idea what can be done to fix this?

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 07:49:36 PM »
I should mention that I haven't been having any problems in the last week or so.

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 09:50:12 PM »
Dunno about that...but I'm having a chronic problems with several sites running over into each other's columns, among them LOP and PWBTS; as well as others. This would halso happen on occasion on the old board. Now it happens constantly when I read it on my work PC versus my home one.

Any idea what can be done to fix this?

Yeah, I have an idea how to take care of this.

It happens, because (without getting into too much code geekery) the content in each area either gets too small, or too large, and causes issues.

Think of each title bar and news area as a container. Each container holds so much text. This dynamic stuff is real touchy to figure out, because as each news item loads, the context fills up the containers and then pushes them out to their size as the content fills up.

It's impossible to judge beforehand which headlines are going to be 1 line in length, or two lines, or even three. So, you have one container with 10 headlines that takes up 10 lines of text, and you can have another container with 10 headlines that takes anywhere from 10 lines to 30 lines of text.

That's a ton of difference, and containers are resizing themselves based on how many lines they need to display, so sometimes it gets out of whack - especially when one news area fails to load for some reason.

All the containers need to get pushed into position by the content they load, so when that doesn't quite work properly, it looks a little messed up.

If you look at the Gaming news or Top News pages, that literally *never* happens, since all those news services provide short headlines, and everything is a standard size.

I've got a couple ideas on how to fix it, but I just have to find time to look at it.

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2010, 05:36:40 AM »
Gotcha. Thanks.

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2010, 06:55:20 AM »
And now...my feed is down (as is LOP) and has been since yesterday afternoon. If you could give it a look, please?

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2010, 02:45:07 PM »
I've only seen one problem with your feed since we moved to the new site, and that was right in the beginning. Your feed has been working for weeks, and is working right now.

I also posted on the board once I set up the news page, that this is exactly the same scenario as it was under the old board. It's the same code, and it never gets touched. If it breaks, there's too many pieces in there - sometimes, it'll break.

I can't do anything with your feed - well, it's not even your feed - it's my patched up code that makes it work.

If you want to "fix" it, you need to actually provide a true RSS service like other sites do.

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 12:07:46 AM »
I think I got the front page thing figured out. I'll keep an eye on it.

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 01:21:19 PM »
The front page thing has been fixed...and I can read stuff without it bleeding over in to other sections now. But my site's not coming up agaimnm. It's been down for over an hour. can you give it a look, please.

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 07:31:48 PM »
The front page thing has been fixed...and I can read stuff without it bleeding over in to other sections now. But my site's not coming up agaimnm. It's been down for over an hour. can you give it a look, please.

It seems to be working just fine.

I can't do anything with your feed - well, it's not even your feed - it's my patched up code that makes it work.

If you want to "fix" it, you need to actually provide a true RSS service like other sites do.

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2010, 02:40:12 PM »
The front page thing has been fixed...and I can read stuff without it bleeding over in to other sections now. But my site's not coming up again. It's been down for over an hour. can you give it a look, please.

It's been down for at least three hours again. If you could take a look again please.

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2010, 04:19:50 PM »
I can't do anything with your feed - well, it's not even your feed - it's my patched up code that makes it work.

If you want to "fix" it, you need to actually provide a true RSS service like other sites do.

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2010, 06:22:36 PM »
Bob do you realize over 1/2 your posts here are in this thread?

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Re: Sometimes trouble getting on A1
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2010, 07:04:21 PM »
Yeah, it seems like his only purpose here is to drive traffic to his web site.