Author Topic: JA hating on The Rock again (Read 5933 times)

FATSEXY · « **on:** October 08, 2014, 02:14:57 PM »

I read it because someone sent me the link to the piece.

Here's his piece (complete with his "I'm better than you" intro):

http://wallsofjerichoholic.blogspot.com/2014/10/theory-peoples-strudel-is-dry.html

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NOTE: The following theory is not about Dwayne Johnson, the person. I don't know anything about that man's sex life, and I am not making a value judgement on him for however sex he's had or not had. Making fun of someone for having too much sex or not enough sex or no sex at all is absolutely idiotic. This theory is about the framing of a fictional persona playing out in the WWE Universe, and I can't believe I have to write this fucking disclaimer, but I can't with some of you people. I just can't.Watching RAW last night, I received a revelation, one with such stunning clarity that I wasn't entirely sure if it was an epiphany or whether a week of sleep deprivation and emotional duress had finally caught up with me. I slept on it and thought about it, though, and it all started to make sense. This revelation explained so much of the history and behaviors of one of WWE's most iconic characters that I am shocked and dumbfounded that I haven't come to this revelation a long time ago.Basically, the character of The Rock has either never had sex, or he's had such little sex in his life that he's still super-repressed after all these years.The first telltale sign has been slapping everyone in the face for the last 15 years. The Rock has always had a super-confrontational relationship with women. When he comes across a woman whom he pretends is sexually repulsive to him (Vickie Guerrero) or who has wronged him in some way (Lana, Stephanie McMahon, etc.), he batters her with awful, misogynist insults. Do you think someone who knows the touch of a woman would have sat down and ad libbed a trashy, hateful song towards Guerrero for no other reason than her telling him to be quiet while people are working? Basically, Rock's script towards women is cobbled straight out of men's rights activist forums. More accurately, maybe The Rock was a greater influence on the current crop of fedora-clad champions of r/MensRights than people realize.Even when he tried putting the moves on various women over the years that met his standards of attractiveness, his moves have always reeked of the sleazy, one-liner-drenched pickup artist shtick that the "red pill" consuming subgroup uses to get sex. Remember when he'd use to hit on Lilian Garcia and she'd pretend to act flattered? The puzzle pieces are starting to fit together quite nicely, and the pattern has been noticeable and defined since the day he came into WWE.Rocky Maivia entered the company as the fresh-faced, blue-chip, can't-prospect dressed in a warped, Middle American view on what was cool in 1996. He was an exceedingly "nice" guy who played the right way, but he got abused by the system and became jaded. If that sequence sounds familiar, head into the murky waters of self-pitying MRA forums and see how many people self-profess as nice people whom the ladies often abuse and use. His next step was to join the Nation of Domination, which oddly makes sense as well. While the Nation never really lashed out against women in general, Rock's motivations to get into the group in the first place could have been because he didn't have any luck with the ladies. Maybe if he threw himself into activism, he could get his mind off the evil, gross, MEAN women who wouldn't give him WHAT HE DESERVED. But then he evolved into The Rock, and he got all the accolades. He showed off his massive charisma and won Championships and grew into his body all that other jazz, and yet the ladies were still repulsed by him. And then when he became a movie star, he got so busy between shuttling back and forth between Hollywood and WWE that he didn't even have time for sex. But that didn't stop him from assuming that the lack of action was because women were evil. His mind became so warped that today, his first reaction to a ravishing bombshell who happened to be the most vocal anti-American zealot WWE has seen since Ludvig Borga was to demean her for her gender.But why would WWE so blatantly and obviously promote a sexless, hateful MRA as its biggest pop icon, even before the time he became a legitimate Hollywood box office draw? Well, to whom did WWE market shows during the Attitude Era? The answer is the 18-34 male demographic. While any large group of people is super diverse both in appearance and mindset, I've been around enough late-'90s devotees to know that a healthy amount of MRA-types populated those crowds back in the day. The Rock was a handsome, ripped, charismatic dude who represented everything some people in the crowd wished they could be, but even in the depths of vicarious living, those fans had to have identified with Rock on a different level. He was more famous than they were, but they shared the common bond that none of them were getting laid on a regular basis. He talked like they did, only he was that portion of the crowd's most successful avatar.I can't believe it took me so long to realize that Rocky really is just a sexually repressed asshole who strikes a chord with a vocal portion of the crowd. Sure, some people who have healthy sex lives like him for whatever reason, and again, not having sex isn't a crime or a sin or something to be ashamed of, which is why someone ACTING like their own lack of sex is a "problem" makes them such a delicious heel, or at the very least, an antiheroic emblem for a community with misplaced ideals. WWE has always seemed askew when it came to its morality alignments, but maybe its portrayal of The Rock, especially during the times when he's called upon to be cheered, can shed some light on the twisted ideas of heroism and villainy among its braintrust.

Here's my reply to him:

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I find it kind of weird that you are trying to knock a fictional character's lack of getting laid on his behavior, his behavior being that he makes fun of other fictional characters based on their lack of sexual prowess. Do you understand why that comes across as weird? And, disclaimers aside, you do realize that your opinion piece comes down to "he's not getting laid so that makes him a jerk", don't you?

Any replies I get will be posted.

EDIT: I can't go back and format this the way he had it formatted for some reason, apologies. Read it as a block, damn you.

FATSEXY · « **Reply #1 on:** October 08, 2014, 02:21:17 PM »

Also, he told Lana she was beautiful and that it was a shame she walked around like she had a stick up her ass, basically. Told her she was stuck up. I bet Actual Girl Who Plays Lana couldn't WAIT to fuck The Rock after the show.

Zandrax · « **Reply #2 on:** October 08, 2014, 07:42:04 PM »

Haven't Babyfaces acted single and available in wrestling since the dawn of time?

RealMarchHare · « **Reply #3 on:** October 08, 2014, 07:48:41 PM »

I can't read all that. So much baseless conjecture. As such to me it reads like he's actually projecting his own thoughts/beliefs onto a fictional character to make himself feel better.

Prime · « **Reply #4 on:** October 08, 2014, 09:53:59 PM »

th;dr

Freakshow · « **Reply #5 on:** October 09, 2014, 08:24:38 AM »

Quote from: Prime on October 08, 2014, 09:53:59 PM

th;dr

dasheight · « **Reply #6 on:** October 09, 2014, 08:54:30 AM »

Quote from: Prime on October 08, 2014, 09:53:59 PM

th;dr

Torgo · « **Reply #7 on:** October 09, 2014, 11:28:10 AM »

FATSEXY, this is a lost cause. When JA believes something, he will go to any depths to hold to it. You will never convince him otherwise, it's best to just ignore it.

Case in point, I remember a loooooooong time ago, he was talking about how any band that consisted of young men playing pop songs is a boy band. I said even Nirvana and the Beatles? He said, with all sincerity, that Nirvana and the Beatles were boy bands.

That's the kind of stubborn you're dealing with here.

Let it go, man. LET IT GO!

SupTool · « **Reply #8 on:** October 09, 2014, 12:46:21 PM »

Looks like whatever reply you had to him got deleted

dasheight · « **Reply #9 on:** October 09, 2014, 12:59:15 PM »

Quote from: SupTool on October 09, 2014, 12:46:21 PM

Looks like whatever reply you had to him got deleted

Nah, it's still there. FATSEXY replied to the FB link to the article. The replies to the actual blog post are just "yeah, what you said, right on, bro"...

Also another

to "th;dr". It's simple, yet brilliant.

Pebble.2.0 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 09, 2014, 02:15:35 PM »

Quote from: Prime on October 08, 2014, 09:53:59 PM

th;dr

oh man, bravo

FTR this dude has some serious projection issues.

FATSEXY · « **Reply #11 on:** October 09, 2014, 02:49:20 PM »

Quote from: Pebble.2.0 on October 09, 2014, 02:15:35 PM

oh man, bravo

FTR this dude has some serious projection issues.

I think we should step back and realize that our own Turbovirgin became such a pimp that he can talk shit on The Rock's sexual prowess (and yes, I'm talking about the character The Rock not the guy).

I also want to backtrack and laugh my fat motherfuckin' ASS OFF at the "I'm not talking about THE MAN, I'm talking about THE CHARACTER OMG!" disclaimer, seeing how The Rock fuckin' posterized the SJW internet rasslin' fan Stroud in that most marvelous display of pwnage in Twitter history.

Zandrax · « **Reply #12 on:** October 09, 2014, 03:08:57 PM »

Quote from: RealMarchHare on October 08, 2014, 07:48:41 PM

I can't read all that. So much baseless conjecture. As such to me it reads like he's actually projecting his own thoughts/beliefs onto a fictional character to make himself feel better.

It's the only logical explanation for how he could tell Lillian Garcia (Not the WOMAN the CHARACTER) "pretended" to be flattered that Rock flirted with her.

freud mayweather · « **Reply #13 on:** October 09, 2014, 03:35:23 PM »

JA has some real good ideas about gender relations but his autism causes him to pick all the wrong battles over them.

Pebble.2.0 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 09, 2014, 05:42:00 PM »

turbovirgin
autism

TH threads never disappoint

RickRude · « **Reply #15 on:** October 11, 2014, 02:54:45 AM »

He doesn't post here any more, I guess?

Zandrax · « **Reply #16 on:** October 11, 2014, 09:30:16 AM »

Quote from: RickRude on October 11, 2014, 02:54:45 AM

He doesn't post here any more, I guess?

Short answer, no. I think the other guys can explain it better. But despite the crap we give him, I'm positive he would be welcome back at any time should he change his mind.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #17 on:** October 11, 2014, 05:53:31 PM »

Quote from: freud mayweather on October 09, 2014, 03:35:23 PM

JA has some real good ideas about gender relations but his autism causes him to pick all the wrong battles over them.

This has been my point all along. I don't actually disagree with a lot of what he says, but he chooses to be ridiculously nitpicky and even when I agree with him he's often obnoxious as can be. He's a good dude though, but I kind of had to throw the baby out with the bath water as it's just not worth the aggravation.

Also, it is funny that he has said that Stone Cold is the only part of the Attitude Era he wants to see return. You know, Stone Cold Steve Austin who actually beat his female spouse.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #18 on:** October 11, 2014, 05:55:15 PM »

Quote from: RickRude on October 11, 2014, 02:54:45 AM

He doesn't post here any more, I guess?

Nope, he left when people started "ganging up" on him. I respect that because there's no reason to stay and be aggravated. Of course, like I said that's why I don't read his stuff or Stroud's for that matter. At some point it's just not worth it.

Freakshow · « **Reply #19 on:** October 12, 2014, 11:34:29 PM »

Quote from: freud mayweather on October 09, 2014, 03:35:23 PM

JA has some real good ideas about gender relations but his autism causes him to pick all the wrong battles over them.

i did what you see there

DocSavage · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2014, 12:41:15 AM »

Quote from: FreebirdSTF on October 11, 2014, 05:53:31 PM

This has been my point all along. I don't actually disagree with a lot of what he says, but he chooses to be ridiculously nitpicky and even when I agree with him he's often obnoxious as can be. He's a good dude though, but I kind of had to throw the baby out with the bath water as it's just not worth the aggravation.

Also, it is funny that he has said that Stone Cold is the only part of the Attitude Era he wants to see return. You know, Stone Cold Steve Austin who actually beat his female spouse.

That's nostalgia goggles for you.

Hulk Hogan's a total piece of shite, but Hulkamania's still real to me, dammit.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2014, 11:34:06 AM »

I'm with you there. I hated Hogan during his WCW run because although his Hollywood turn was great I believe he sabotaged the promotion due to his ego. That being said, I don't really have any quarrel with him now and it's actually good to see him show up in WWE.

I just found that interesting because if you're going to continually up in arms about all these social issues and want to hate on The Rock like that it's kind of hilarious that woman-beater SCSA is A-OK in your book.

Zandrax · « **Reply #22 on:** October 13, 2014, 11:55:55 AM »

Quote from: FreebirdSTF on October 13, 2014, 11:34:06 AM

I'm with you there. I hated Hogan during his WCW run because although his Hollywood turn was great I believe he sabotaged the promotion due to his ego. That being said, I don't really have any quarrel with him now and it's actually good to see him show up in WWE.

I just found that interesting because if you're going to continually up in arms about all these social issues and want to hate on The Rock like that it's kind of hilarious that woman-beater SCSA is A-OK in your book.

Even onscreen he wasn't exactly the epitome decency to women. He's stunned Keibler, Trish, and Lita if memory serves. Has Rock ever hit a woman?

Torgo · « **Reply #23 on:** October 13, 2014, 12:34:04 PM »

Quote from: Zandrax on October 13, 2014, 11:55:55 AM

Even onscreen he wasn't exactly the epitome decency to women. He's stunned Keibler, Trish, and Lita if memory serves. Has Rock ever hit a woman?

Not only stunned, but he beat the ever loving shit out of Lita with a STEEL CHAIR.

DocSavage · « **Reply #24 on:** October 13, 2014, 01:41:53 PM »

Quote from: Torgo on October 13, 2014, 12:34:04 PM

Not only stunned, but he beat the ever loving shit out of Lita with a STEEL CHAIR.

See, now that's equality! Man or woman, he's gonna beat the shit out of you with a chair.