Author Topic: RAW 10/4 (Read 5404 times)

Little Jimmy · « **Reply #25 on:** October 04, 2010, 10:32:09 PM »

Goldust was on and they've given him something to do, so that's very nice.

Other than that, this Raw has been godawful. I think there has been a total of 12 minutes of wrestling on it so far, surrounded by commercials and awful comedy.

YoungNavigator · « **Reply #26 on:** October 04, 2010, 10:37:12 PM »

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KoppoKick · « **Reply #27 on:** October 04, 2010, 10:41:15 PM »

Cole's disgust when Truth makes his entrance is so funny.

Little Jimmy · « **Reply #28 on:** October 04, 2010, 10:45:14 PM »

Why doesn't Cena have a Nexus shirt? There are plenty available.

Little Jimmy · « **Reply #29 on:** October 04, 2010, 10:49:15 PM »

Bourne eliminated in Warlord/Santino time.

KoppoKick · « **Reply #30 on:** October 04, 2010, 10:51:08 PM »

Evan Bourne needs to EVOLVE.

tillrules · « **Reply #31 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:23:24 PM »

Missed the first hour. Random thoughts:

1) Edge remains great and will be a terrific top face for Smackdown. Miz remains awesome and will eventually be the top guy on Raw.

2) Remember my post yesterday about them needing to make the women's division more than just the McTaker vanity division? Getting rid of Natalya as a contender to push the Bellas in with a cheap win isn't the way to do it. This is almost Cena booking, putting the dominant champions as the party having the odds stacked against them. Not to mention how annoying they are on the mics.

3) If they can ever teach Otunga to even be a mediocre wrestler (and its a big if, he's hideous), he'll be something special. He just seems to have something with his character, the combination of his real life, his sneaky persona and his look. He's still green as hell, but if they stay the course with him and he is willing to learn to work, he's got a shot to be something.

4) I like the payoff of Goldust and how he's not after either of the Million Dollar Couple, just the belt. I also liked Ted's fire in his promo with Knoxville. I continue to believe that DiBiase is a potential franchise guy, he just needs some consistency and some quality wins.

5) John Morrison seems to be rejuvenated in the last couple weeks. I couldn't say exactly why, but he just feels like he's on the cusp of something special.

6) I actually liked the dynamic in the battle royal with Cena. The ending was a bit overdone and drawn out, but Cena's mannerisms in the match were great. If they can keep this tension up and resist the temptation of having him get out of this quickly, regardless of whether Cen eventually gets his chance for revenge or supplants Barrett as the leader of Nexus with a full heel turn, it could rejuvenate him as a talent.

zick · « **Reply #32 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:25:05 PM »

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Proud Virgin · « **Reply #33 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:25:40 PM »

Edge is a face again?

Chus-Kay · « **Reply #34 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:26:39 PM »

Quote from: tillrules on October 04, 2010, 11:23:24 PM

Missed the first hour. Random thoughts:

2) Remember my post yesterday about them needing to make the women's division more than just the McTaker vanity division? Getting rid of Natalya as a contender to push the Bellas in with a cheap win isn't the way to do it. This is almost Cena booking, putting the dominant champions as the party having the odds stacked against them. Not to mention how annoying they are on the mics.

it's more like HHH's heel runs

TH · « **Reply #35 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:31:32 PM »

They made Cena feel fresh again, which is good. It was a good RAW, but not a great one. Burying Bryan was inexcusable, and too many recaps and puff pieces. But it felt a bit fresher on top, even if they loaded it up with filler in between.

And yeah, any time Goldust is on camera is going to be good TV, whether he's wrestling or not.

freud mayweather · « **Reply #36 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:34:21 PM »

Quote from: KoppoKick on October 04, 2010, 10:51:08 PM

Evan Bourne needs to EVOLVE.

why do you hate evan bourne so bad?

i like watching him on tv.

Havok816 · « **Reply #37 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:43:54 PM »

Didn't think it was that great, but I'm sick and kept falling asleep. They rushed through a lot of Cena/Nexus stuff that could have covered two or three weeks. Bryan got buried. Mostly it was just boring, with Goldust/Dibiase and Edge/Miz being the exceptions. It'd just be nice if they slowed down the pace of the storytelling and actually gave things time to grow so the fans have a reason to care.

tillrules · « **Reply #38 on:** October 05, 2010, 12:03:10 AM »

Quote from: Chus-Kay on October 04, 2010, 11:26:39 PM

Quote from: tillrules on October 04, 2010, 11:23:24 PM
Missed the first hour. Random thoughts:

2) Remember my post yesterday about them needing to make the women's division more than just the McTaker vanity division? Getting rid of Natalya as a contender to push the Bellas in with a cheap win isn't the way to do it. This is almost Cena booking, putting the dominant champions as the party having the odds stacked against them. Not to mention how annoying they are on the mics.

it's more like HHH's heel runs

That's probably true, it's just Cena's taken it to new levels in the last year. Which is why this new development seems fresh, in that he's not being given an immediate out and he's having to go along with it.

tillrules · « **Reply #39 on:** October 05, 2010, 12:05:01 AM »

Quote from: TH on October 04, 2010, 11:31:32 PM

They made Cena feel fresh again, which is good. It was a good RAW, but not a great one. Burying Bryan was inexcusable, and too many recaps and puff pieces. But it felt a bit fresher on top, even if they loaded it up with filler in between.

And yeah, any time Goldust is on camera is going to be good TV, whether he's wrestling or not.

I'll wait to see if Bryan comes back next week and gets over on Sheamus before I call it a burial. If eh comes back and gets some sort of visual tap or even a major advantage on Sheamus, then we've got a feud. If its not touched on and Bryan goes a different direction, then it's a wasted segment.

jerseyboy · « **Reply #40 on:** October 05, 2010, 01:22:40 AM »

Quote from: tillrules on October 05, 2010, 12:05:01 AM

Quote from: TH on October 04, 2010, 11:31:32 PM
They made Cena feel fresh again, which is good. It was a good RAW, but not a great one. Burying Bryan was inexcusable, and too many recaps and puff pieces. But it felt a bit fresher on top, even if they loaded it up with filler in between.

And yeah, any time Goldust is on camera is going to be good TV, whether he's wrestling or not.

I'll wait to see if Bryan comes back next week and gets over on Sheamus before I call it a burial. If eh comes back and gets some sort of visual tap or even a major advantage on Sheamus, then we've got a feud. If its not touched on and Bryan goes a different direction, then it's a wasted segment.

Even if they do that, the damage has been done. Bryan can't keep jobbing like that on TV and be taken seriously.

KoppoKick · « **Reply #41 on:** October 05, 2010, 01:32:04 AM »

Maybe Daniel will come back next week at Sheamus working Bacchi-Bacchi style.

TH · « **Reply #42 on:** October 05, 2010, 07:18:55 AM »

Quote from: Havok816 on October 04, 2010, 11:43:54 PM

Didn't think it was that great, but I'm sick and kept falling asleep. They rushed through a lot of Cena/Nexus stuff that could have covered two or three weeks. Bryan got buried. Mostly it was just boring, with Goldust/Dibiase and Edge/Miz being the exceptions. It'd just be nice if they slowed down the pace of the storytelling and actually gave things time to grow so the fans have a reason to care.

If they didn't have a PPV every other week, they could slow down the storytelling. Hell, if they had PPVs every six weeks, they could fit a whole lot of storytelling for more than just one main angle in there...

TH · « **Reply #43 on:** October 05, 2010, 07:20:32 AM »

Quote from: tillrules on October 05, 2010, 12:05:01 AM

Quote from: TH on October 04, 2010, 11:31:32 PM
They made Cena feel fresh again, which is good. It was a good RAW, but not a great one. Burying Bryan was inexcusable, and too many recaps and puff pieces. But it felt a bit fresher on top, even if they loaded it up with filler in between.

And yeah, any time Goldust is on camera is going to be good TV, whether he's wrestling or not.

I'll wait to see if Bryan comes back next week and gets over on Sheamus before I call it a burial. If eh comes back and gets some sort of visual tap or even a major advantage on Sheamus, then we've got a feud. If its not touched on and Bryan goes a different direction, then it's a wasted segment.

With Barrett going for the title, maybe that happens, but I'm not holding my breath. The WWE is so skittish any more pushing its midcard stars. Even Miz gets spotty booking anymore, but he can afford to receive it because he's a heat-generating machine. Bryan? Not so much (as much as some of my smarky brethern would hate to admit). The only saving grace is that Edge put him over huge a few segments later verbally.

Niall · « **Reply #44 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:23:00 PM »

Quote from: TH on October 04, 2010, 11:31:32 PM

They made Cena feel fresh again, which is good. It was a good RAW, but not a great one. Burying Bryan was inexcusable, and too many recaps and puff pieces. But it felt a bit fresher on top, even if they loaded it up with filler in between.

And yeah, any time Goldust is on camera is going to be good TV, whether he's wrestling or not.

The Daniel Bryan segment was absolutely crazy, despite Edge putting him over in the segment later with Miz and Riley. It just made no sense at all, considering there were a ton of other guys on the roster who could be considered as enhancement talent right now.

Off topic from that, I guess Michael Tarver is done with NXT now, from the way Barrett was talking? That's a shame, because he had a real place in that set up as the muscle. None of that really now, but I can only assume that McGillicutty and Harris are coming in.

Niall · « **Reply #45 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:24:05 PM »

Did anyone else notice that when Cole was at ringside with the King he didn't appear to have a small goatee, but when he was on the podium he did? Strange lighting in that arena.

Chus-Kay · « **Reply #46 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:27:15 PM »

btw, was that the first appearance of darren young since he was ousted from the nexus?

Niall · « **Reply #47 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:46:06 PM »

Was he in the battle royal?

Little Jimmy · « **Reply #48 on:** October 05, 2010, 10:22:10 PM »

Quote from: Chus-Kay on October 05, 2010, 09:27:15 PM

btw, was that the first appearance of darren young since he was ousted from the nexus?

Second, he came out during a schmozz and distracted Barrett, who ate someone's finisher(don't remember, it was either Randy or Cena), and got pinned. Then he disappeared again until this RAW.

jerseyboy · « **Reply #49 on:** October 05, 2010, 10:27:10 PM »

Quote from: dorian on October 05, 2010, 10:22:10 PM

Quote from: Chus-Kay on October 05, 2010, 09:27:15 PM
btw, was that the first appearance of darren young since he was ousted from the nexus?

Second, he came out during a schmozz and distracted Barrett, who ate someone's finisher(don't remember, it was either Randy or Cena), and got pinned. Then he disappeared again until this RAW.

Yeah, and he came out and was just another jobberific dude.