Author Topic: Raw Thread: 5-11-2015 (Read 4282 times)

FreebirdSTF · « **on:** May 11, 2015, 12:41:52 PM »

http://www.southatlantawrestling.com/2015/05/the-raw-five-point-preview-from-wwe.html

SouthpawJosh · « **Reply #1 on:** May 11, 2015, 01:08:48 PM »

DB is reported to show up. Wonder if it's to surrender yet another title...

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2015, 02:13:51 PM »

I almost mentioned that, but didn't have time to see how legit that talk was.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2015, 09:16:20 PM »

Worker Boots John Cena is the best John Cena.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2015, 09:49:21 PM »

I wish WWE were like ECW in letting their parodies get over and Main Event like the bWo.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2015, 10:28:28 PM »

Michael Cole called Kofi Xavier and vice versa. Hysterical.

Big E needs to wrestle more, he was botching shit against Cesaro and only Cesaro's insane strength made it work. What the hell was that finishing rollup? Seems more like a Daniel Bryan move.

Jef Leopard · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2015, 03:50:22 AM »

Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on May 11, 2015, 10:28:28 PM

Michael Cole called Kofi Xavier and vice versa. Hysterical.

Less noticed by the IWC is that JBL also called Cesaro 'Kidd' at one point. I guess the "he can't tell white people apart" talking point isn't as grabby?

Wrestling announcers slip up on names all the fucking time. How many times did Jim Ross call Christian 'Edge' or Matt Hardy 'Jeff'?

The 'Cole has an out-of-touch, blind, racist Vince in his ear mixing up black dudes names' talking point is nothing more self-congratulatory IWC confirmation-bias bullshit.

FATSEXY · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2015, 07:14:58 AM »

Saddest part of the DB segment is that we all know he's done, but he doesn't.

POE-Bot Activated! · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2015, 07:35:41 AM »

Quote from: FATSEXY on May 12, 2015, 07:14:58 AM

Saddest part of the DB segment is that we all know he's done, but he doesn't.

It kinda felt like Edge's retirement speech.

Daniel Bryan is wrong about the IC title though: it doesn't get defended and the champ jobs out every time.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2015, 07:40:40 AM »

Daniel's right about what they are trying to do with the IC Title. Yeah, it has been worthless, but much like the US Title it looked like they were attempting to make it relevant again by giving Bryan the run with it.

Assuming Reigns doesn't win the big strap, I think making him IC champion would be a solid move until he's ready to win the big one.

Pebble.2.0 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 12, 2015, 10:30:06 AM »

Quote from: Jef Leopard on May 12, 2015, 03:50:22 AM

Less noticed by the IWC is that JBL also called Cesaro 'Kidd' at one point. I guess the "he can't tell white people apart" talking point isn't as grabby?

Wrestling announcers slip up on names all the fucking time. How many times did Jim Ross call Christian 'Edge' or Matt Hardy 'Jeff'?

The 'Cole has an out-of-touch, blind, racist Vince in his ear mixing up black dudes names' talking point is nothing more self-congratulatory IWC confirmation-bias bullshit.

yup.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #11 on:** May 12, 2015, 09:53:29 PM »

http://www.southatlantawrestling.com/2015/05/raw-review-last-stop-before-payback.html

Full review above. Decent go-home for Payback.

Pebble.2.0 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 13, 2015, 03:21:15 PM »

was that crowd dead or is it just that Axel, Sandow and the Toad Warriors are just not over?

Torgo · « **Reply #13 on:** May 13, 2015, 04:45:34 PM »

Quote from: Pebble.2.0 on May 13, 2015, 03:21:15 PM

was that crowd dead or is it just that Axel, Sandow and the Toad Warriors are just not over?

It wasn't the best crowd. even the Daniel Bryan segment came off a little quiet to me.

I wonder how many people realize The Ascension are a parody?

Pebble.2.0 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2015, 04:52:05 PM »

Quote from: Torgo on May 13, 2015, 04:45:34 PM

It wasn't the best crowd. even the Daniel Bryan segment came off a little quiet to me.

I wonder how many people realize The Ascension are a parody?

I think they are terrible, even if it is a parody. You need certain skills to pull of a good parody, they don't have them.

FATSEXY · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2015, 06:11:51 PM »

Quote from: Pebble.2.0 on May 13, 2015, 04:52:05 PM

I think they are terrible, even if it is a parody. You need certain skills to pull of a good parody, they don't have them.

I think what we all have to realize now is that Damien Sandow sucks. I mean, he just fuckin' stinks on ice. Goofy physicality and his personality as a regular guy is ok, but every character he's ever tried to play sucked.

POE-Bot Activated! · « **Reply #16 on:** May 13, 2015, 10:30:08 PM »

I actually think Damien Sandow is decent. There was a point (prior to teaming with Cody Rhodes) where his matches were guaranteed to be great and his promos had heat. At some point, he said 'fuck it' after they had him do impressions of other wrestlers (and his impression of Vince McMahon may had left him in the doghouse permanently) and gave less of a shit. He did some weird shoot-ish promo on a PPV pre-show that was begging for him to be fired and he was ignored. He's a better tag team wrestler though.

Sandow would benefit wrestling in Japan or even in Mexico.

freud mayweather · « **Reply #17 on:** May 14, 2015, 06:45:57 AM »

Quote from: FATSEXY on May 13, 2015, 06:11:51 PM

I think what we all have to realize now is that Damien Sandow sucks. I mean, he just fuckin' stinks on ice. Goofy physicality and his personality as a regular guy is ok, but every character he's ever tried to play sucked.

Mizdow was incredible when someone would do a move to The Miz, and he'd sell it outside the ring.

Pebble.2.0 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 14, 2015, 11:56:57 AM »

Quote from: freud mayweather on May 14, 2015, 06:45:57 AM

Mizdow was incredible when someone would do a move to The Miz, and he'd sell it outside the ring.

I did quite enjoy that, and my enjoyment lasted months longer than it should have. For some reason it didn't get old like most stuff.

Torgo · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2015, 02:54:46 PM »

Quote from: Pebble.2.0 on May 13, 2015, 04:52:05 PM

I think they are terrible, even if it is a parody. You need certain skills to pull of a good parody, they don't have them.

They are terrible, but it's hilarious and I usually watch when they show up.

Zandrax · « **Reply #20 on:** May 14, 2015, 04:15:51 PM »

Quote from: Pebble.2.0 on May 14, 2015, 11:56:57 AM

I did quite enjoy that, and my enjoyment lasted months longer than it should have. For some reason it didn't get old like most stuff.

I think at least part of the reason it worked is because you had the impersonator and the "impersonatee" together. Sandow doing Macho Man doesn't work because he can't cross paths with Savage... and Jay Lethal already did it better anyway.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2015, 07:59:14 AM »

Plus I think the whole Stunt Double and Miz Assistant thing was a great way to get him over as a big time face, but I had hoped the mimic stuff was over when he broke away from The Miz.

FATSEXY · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2015, 04:55:41 PM »

Quote from: FreebirdSTF on May 15, 2015, 07:59:14 AM

Plus I think the whole Stunt Double and Miz Assistant thing was a great way to get him over as a big time face, but I had hoped the mimic stuff was over when he broke away from The Miz.

What pisses me off is he came out and did a promo that was good, he was kind of himself and spoke well about what he wanted to do with his career, and they close the segment with him doing mimic stuff (that sucked).

I just think he's a bust. Hell, I thought Ziggler was kind of shitty when he was with Swagger, but now I think Ziggler is just the best thing ever.

FreebirdSTF · « **Reply #23 on:** May 16, 2015, 01:55:05 PM »

Then they followed up that mimic promo by having him become Macho Mandow which is fun, but not what he should be doing now. A lot of people complained about The Mizdow stuff, but it was a brilliant way to make him a great face. Problem is they blew it once he broke away.

Torgo · « **Reply #24 on:** May 16, 2015, 10:10:34 PM »

Quote from: FreebirdSTF on May 16, 2015, 01:55:05 PM

Then they followed up that mimic promo by having him become Macho Mandow which is fun, but not what he should be doing now. A lot of people complained about The Mizdow stuff, but it was a brilliant way to make him a great face. Problem is they blew it once he broke away.

The whole reason Mizdow was over was because that particular gimmick was over. Once it was over I knew Sandow was over. As in, not as over anymore.

Over and out.