Author Topic: Game of Thrones Season 2 (Read 20980 times)

Webweaver · « **Reply #150 on:** May 31, 2012, 07:54:10 PM »

Lord Beric was in Season 1, Ned sends him after the Mountain.

SCB · « **Reply #151 on:** May 31, 2012, 07:58:53 PM »

They're recasting him since he will have a big role.

Webweaver · « **Reply #152 on:** June 01, 2012, 12:33:38 PM »

That was going to be my next question, whether they would recast. I am surprised they didn't cast the role for season 1 just to be done with it. This is the 3rd recasting so far. Ja'her and the Mountain being the others.

SCB · « **Reply #153 on:** June 02, 2012, 10:52:47 AM »

Looks like both Cersei and Dany have a no nudity clause in their contract.

Watching Blackwater a 3rd time, when the wildfire hits, Tyrion and Hound were not enjoying watching Stannis's men burn, Joffrey and the pyromancer were loving it for different reasons.

When the Hound tells Joffrey to !@#$ off, he seems genuinely sad, might be because that's the only male figure in his life.

Tywinn rides in like a boss in the throne room.

Didn't really make it clear to non-book readers that Loras was wearing Renly armor and defeated the morale of Stannis's men as the ghost of Renly, maybe they'll mention it in the finale.

MrCATV · « **Reply #154 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:12:17 AM »

wasn't it Loras' brother who actually wore Renly's armor in the book cuz Loras was smaller than Renly?

MrCATV · « **Reply #155 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:21:29 AM »

Quote from: SCB on May 30, 2012, 05:18:49 PM

Can't wait to see Queen of Thorns after how they made HBO Margarie. Mance Raydar I just want to see in the flesh.

I actually rewatched the very first episode of GoT to see if they snuck Mance Rayder sneakily into the hall of Winterfell scene, but I'm pretty sure they didn't, that would've taken tremendous foresight. Although I did see who I assumed to be Jeyne Poole and of course Beric Dondarrion in episode 6.

Webweaver · « **Reply #156 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:22:12 AM »

I think Tyrion didn't like the death, The Hound didn't like the fire, The Pyromancer loved the fire and Joffery loved the sufferring.

Hard to believe Emilia has a no nudity clause given season one.

I didn't notice the armour and why would anyone else know what it looked like? No one ever saw him wearing it.

MrCATV · « **Reply #157 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:27:02 AM »

Loras was wearing armour, but there was some sort of whitish fabric over the top half of it, so you can't tell, but I was assuming they were gonna someone have wear Renly's crown into battle just to show the viewer that it was Renly's people, but I guess they got the point across with Loras being the first man into the Red Keep, although he didn't really bend the knee to Cersei, which could've been confusing to her not knowing who's side he's on until her father walks in.

SCB · « **Reply #158 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:59:56 AM »

Nice little easter egg. Tyrion whistles the Rains of Castemere earlier in the season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTwSyL_XrlA

Webweaver · « **Reply #159 on:** June 03, 2012, 10:30:36 PM »

Simply awesome. I hate waiting a whole year.

dj unstable · « **Reply #160 on:** June 03, 2012, 10:35:48 PM »

- why was stannis not in prison or dead?

- meant to ask this half a season ago, but why was stannis' ghost baby only used once?

- was baby drago wearing a wig?

SCB · « **Reply #161 on:** June 04, 2012, 01:04:33 AM »

Quote from: dj unstable on June 03, 2012, 10:35:48 PM

- why was stannis not in prison or dead?

- meant to ask this half a season ago, but why was stannis' ghost baby only used once?

- was baby drago wearing a wig?

1. Stannis was dragged away by his own men. He was never captured.

2. Never explained on the show, but each shadow baby can only be used once and every shadow baby drains a bit of life away from Stannis. It comes at a great cost and Stannis asks her to stop.

SCB · « **Reply #162 on:** June 04, 2012, 02:28:06 AM »

Wow, the finale is going to take a second watch to figure out how exactly I feel. It was a better finale that season where it was extremely hard to follow Ned's death and all we got was a set up for next season. This one had far great substance.

- Winterfell is burnt and ruined, although mysteriously. Theon is nowhere be seen. Luwinn is dying. Really loved the goodbye scene between all of them. Looks like the little Starks are headed North to see Jon. Good luck finding him there. There's an obvious change here, but with the casting for season 3, I'm not sure where it's all going. Kind of odd no one asked why Winterfell was burning and why Luwinn didn't tell them. He might have been passed out and dying.

- Dany gets her dragons back and gains some minor riches. This is the biggest departure from the books, but it went kind of like I thought it would turn out. Dany trained her dragons to breathe fire on command earlier and I figured that's how the season would end. Great to see Khal Drogo back. They left out all of Dany's visions and prophecies from the book, but I'm guessing it's to avoid future spoilers coming up. Good to see her momentum back though.

- Joffrey frees Sansa for Margarie, but Little Finger reminds her that now he really owns her. But he says he will take her away from this. Can she trust this creep? Should have left with the Hound.

- Speaking of Little Finger, loved the little conversation between Varys and Roz about him. This looks like a long term showdown between these two.

- Brienne shows her cold blooded killer side, sort of new for the show, but something that has always been there anyway. Anyone else really liking Jaime despite everything he's done? I'm rooting for this guy.

- Tyrion wakes up with a mild scar, huge difference from the book where he's missing some of his nose. He's gotten zero credit for everything he did to save is people during Blackwater. Shae suggests they run away, but he likes staying around the bad guy? Should have left.

- Quarrin makes a deal with Jon to kill him and infiltrate the wildlings. Can't wait to see Mance Raydar.

- Robb marries the doctor chick despite the wisdom of his mother about the deal he made with the Freys. How does any of this make sense? There was a major difference in the book, which I hope they have a good reason for changing.

- Great scene with a massive army of white walkers headed...well somewhere. These things are pretty mysterious, really cool to see them in the open like that.

- Arya meets Jaqen for the last time. He wanted her to go with him, should have went! But she wants to find Robb and her mom, oh and Sansa. Turns out he can change his face. I remember in the books people thought he was Syrio from season one, but unlikely. The two things I was looking forward to most this season was Tyrion at Kingslanding, brilliant, and Arya's horrible time at Harrenhal, which they severely down played and instead focused on a more pleasant time near Tywinn.

When I finished reading the books last summer, I wanted to travel to the future and watch season 3. Next two seasons are going to be epic. Seasons 1 and 2 were the appetizers, from this point on it's the main course.

TH · « **Reply #163 on:** June 04, 2012, 08:04:54 AM »

Jaime Lannister is one of the most likable characters in the series despite all the terrible things he's done (attempted murder on Bran, incest, instigating Ned Stark, etc). Consider all the shit he's had to go through in his life. He was disinherited from his father by the Mad King out of spite in a political move. When he killed Aerys, he wasn't greeted as a hero or a facilitator, but as a pariah because he broke an oath. Yes, because keeping your word to a tyrannical dictator who murdered innocents and abused the throne is far more a priority than transitioning to a more benevolent leader. That's an emotionally damaging young adulthood, and the thanks he gets is verbal abuse from his father, forced estrangement from the one woman in the world that he loves (who cheats on him with his cousin MmmBop even) and imprisonment by the Starks, who only want to use him as a poker chip to get back two daughters, one of whom isn't in King's Landing.

He's not a saint by any means. He helped start the war by fathering Joffrey and keeping the lie alive that yeah, somehow, it was Robert that was the first Baratheon EVER to birth a child not black of hair. Again, he tried to murder Bran Stark. He's kind of a prick too. That being said, outside of a core group of Starks (Jon Snow, Ned, Arya), are there really ANY characters in the series who wholly fit the hero mold? I'm beginning to think that the lead character in the series isn't a person, but the realm itself, and that everyone in it has some degree of shittiness to their characters, of course excepting Jon Snow and Arya at this point (and I guess Danaerys as well).

TH · « **Reply #164 on:** June 04, 2012, 08:06:50 AM »

Oh, and the finale ruled balls, especially Brienne going apeshit on the Stark men and the final scene, with the White Walkers just strolling up and looking at Sam like he was too gristly to dig into. The zombie horse was kinda cool too.

SCB · « **Reply #165 on:** June 04, 2012, 12:30:54 PM »

Doubt they'll ever explain it on the show, but [spoiler]Cersei seduced Jaime to take his vows and become part of the Kingsguard. Tywinn was arranging Jaime to marry Cat's crazy sister, eventually he'd have heirs of his own and takeover for Tywinn. Cersei came up with the plan so Jaime could always be near her and the Mad King thought this was all his idea. [/spoiler]

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #166 on:** June 04, 2012, 03:49:56 PM »

FWIW, Theon's speech was fucking badass. I knew he was going to get taken care of in comical fashion, but it was quite inspirational nonetheless.

Webweaver · « **Reply #167 on:** June 04, 2012, 09:14:50 PM »

SCB, put a spoiler around that. Jamie explains all that in the third book and I bet it is a conversation with Brienne at some point.

Webweaver · « **Reply #168 on:** June 04, 2012, 09:34:48 PM »

Quote from: SCB on June 04, 2012, 02:28:06 AM

Wow, the finale is going to take a second watch to figure out how exactly I feel. It was a better finale that season where it was extremely hard to follow Ned's death and all we got was a set up for next season. This one had far great substance.

- Winterfell is burnt and ruined, although mysteriously. Theon is nowhere be seen. Luwinn is dying. Really loved the goodbye scene between all of them. Looks like the little Starks are headed North to see Jon. Good luck finding him there. There's an obvious change here, but with the casting for season 3, I'm not sure where it's all going. Kind of odd no one asked why Winterfell was burning and why Luwinn didn't tell them. He might have been passed out and dying.

This was never explained in the book either, it was implied that the battle caused the damage.

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- Brienne shows her cold blooded killer side, sort of new for the show, but something that has always been there anyway. Anyone else really liking Jaime despite everything he's done? I'm rooting for this guy.

The only bad thing Jamie does is try to kill Bran. Everything else he has done has been easily justifiable. Starks took Tyrion, so Jamie defended his family, completely reasonable. Killed the Mad King, completely reasonable and makes him more honourable not less. Jamie's biggest crime is being a Lannister, ditto Tyrion.

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- Tyrion wakes up with a mild scar, huge difference from the book where he's missing some of his nose. He's gotten zero credit for everything he did to save is people during Blackwater. Shae suggests they run away, but he likes staying around the bad guy? Should have left.

I love this in the books, that he gets so little credit and he worked so hard to save the city. I figured they would let him keep his nose, too hard (expensive) to remove half of it.

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- Robb marries the doctor chick despite the wisdom of his mother about the deal he made with the Freys. How does any of this make sense? There was a major difference in the book, which I hope they have a good reason for changing.

This is almost exactly what was in the book, Rob is injured and meets her that way, but it doesn't change anything. Catelyn is around the army inside of being at Riverrun. Minor changes unless I am forgetting something.

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When I finished reading the books last summer, I wanted to travel to the future and watch season 3. Next two seasons are going to be epic. Seasons 1 and 2 were the appetizers, from this point on it's the main course.

Really looking forward to the next 2 seasons. I will read books 4 and 5 after finishing the last Hunger Games' book.

EDGECRUSHER · « **Reply #169 on:** June 05, 2012, 12:17:17 AM »

Yeah, I didn't expect him to lose his nose either do to the makeup cost and just constant pain it would've been to keep doing.

Rose has great tits.

SCB · « **Reply #170 on:** June 05, 2012, 01:21:05 AM »

The main difference from the books with Robb's wife is that she saved him, nursed him, then had sex with him. Robb, with his father's sense of honor to a fault, had to marry her solely because of his sense of duty. It wasn't something he wanted to do, but felt he had to do for her. On the show, he pretty much married for love and for himself.

SCB · « **Reply #171 on:** June 05, 2012, 02:49:50 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH3jnLaPf-o

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MWO_KpVYgU

Webweaver · « **Reply #172 on:** June 05, 2012, 07:20:32 AM »

Quote from: SCB on June 05, 2012, 01:21:05 AM

The main difference from the books with Robb's wife is that she saved him, nursed him, then had sex with him. Robb, with his father's sense of honor to a fault, had to marry her solely because of his sense of duty. It wasn't something he wanted to do, but felt he had to do for her. On the show, he pretty much married for love and for himself.

I think in the book he also falls in love with her as well. So this is not as much a departure as you are making it sound like.

SCB · « **Reply #173 on:** June 05, 2012, 10:33:11 AM »

The reason for marrying her is very different.

MrCATV · « **Reply #174 on:** June 05, 2012, 05:03:48 PM »

I'm curious how Varys is gonna use Roz against Littlefinger, a departure from the book I look forward to seeing. Also, they'll probably show what happens with Osha and Rickon after they part ways with Bran, Hodor, Jojen and Meera, so that could be another new storyline to look forward to.